Thanks, Al, its all good now. As for the rest... April pointed me at your site a long time ago, and its really been just recently that I have been taking the time. I have learned so much and plan to keep doing that. I am not in a relationship (ive been avoiding for 12 years) but I am finding that as I move closer to wanting one, I need more skills, because whatever I was doing before was just not working for me. regards Sue (working hard)