Hello Al, Just a simple question, I think. Is there any hopes at all if you find yourself in a relationship with somebody who lies so much, no matter how safe you make it for him? He won't share until the proof of his lying is right in front of his eyes, and even then, he will try to denie, to blame, to excuse, to minimize, and will admit eventually on what he thinks you only know, nothing more. He says he understands the betrayal effect of his lies, but will still find excuses for his lies that he keeps doing. He lies by concealing, by omission, by exageration, etc. Thank you, Minou